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calling all beings y'all

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welcome back to calling all beings baby

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we about to get a brother on here

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tonight who sounds smarter than all five

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of us put together and you know what he

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might have better hair all apologies to

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flair anyway i'm your host dj

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i want to say hello uh to my co-host of

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the man that we call money

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what's up dj how are you man good how

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are you tonight sir man doing well can't

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we talk to christopher sharp told it was

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great speaking with you earlier i got to

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talk to two cabbies say maybe three i

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mean that's a record uh also we'd like

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to say hello to our our um associate

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producer a lady who has uh put an

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enormous enormous amount of work into

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promoting paws

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yes that's right that's right thank you

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right there and that is of course akashi

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i'm so glad to be here

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and i'm really excited to talk to this

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man mr sharp

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sharp dressed man he's bringing it we're

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ready it happens okay we're back

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thank you

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yeah we were all we were all spinning

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wheels uh also let's introduce uh the

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oh we might have some dj technical

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issues i thought he was doing that on

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purpose i did too for a second there

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i thought he was pulling the baton here

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i'll pick up the baton real quickly

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while he's working on that okay can you

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guys hear me oh no there's back welcome

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okay maybe i'll change uh i might change

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internet i'm on uh i might go ahead and

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change internet if that continues to the

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other the other band anyway off

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flareus kevin is our our uh video

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video genius that we have who who has a

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slightly different take

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from uh akashi chris so both their foes

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uh hilariously funny hi kev how are you

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wow

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i wasn't ready for that that was good

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i love it and you know if that wasn't

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it was great

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and if that wasn't enough on this show

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we also needed a researcher of course

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that is at a study of uaps her name is

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deb host of the uh deb's dad at dojo

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hello everybody

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marilyn can you give us a anywho

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super bowl's coming later man they

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haven't even skipped off it'll be on for

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but now we're gonna welcome in our very

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from the united kingdom

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and the liberation

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party people put your hands together for

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christopher your hair looks great and uh

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i won't let you know i am missing my

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union jack neck gator however thank god

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my wife gave me my valentine's gift

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oh well i think he's showing her beetle

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i do love we're gonna have to do that

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reset dj it looks so good that it's

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frozen there exactly that's a great

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shirt it looks so good

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okay it's a beautiful beer

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and i think what he's trying to say is

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that we're very happy to have you with

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us christopher and we're all big fans of

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your work

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and uh and i'm really looking forward to

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from uh from deb at study of uaps deb is

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shows in this community deb is doing

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great work uh with all things research

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my favorite questions which is what

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what they're trying to call the wall

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out my arguments basically and that

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mellon louis lazondo and others

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everyone being positive not trying to be

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people to come away learning something

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history the phenomena um philosophy just

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anything really i want people to really

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take something away from the pieces i

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write if that makes sense

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and they do they definitely do chris

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intense curiosity that drives us

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whatever that happened to have been that

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serendipity really that's a really good

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serendipity i just feel the

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other things but my mom does um my mum

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of why you were there but you were there

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time um but i i i feel that yeah but

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these things my mom's experiences my

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brother has similar experiences as well

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it really got me into the paranormal and

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a series of events like health events

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of primary reading epilepsy which is one

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of the rarest epilepsies

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kirby really set me back but it put me

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linguistic activity before the

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that article for instance where i was

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arguing

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uh you know the one that melon and louis

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zondo

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retweeted

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um

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that was coming from emotion

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i mean just like one night and has had

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this feeling you have to write you have

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to write so i put my son to bed

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and i just had this urge it all just

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came out and

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when i posted that article i was like oh

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gosh i'm going to wake up tomorrow

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someone's going to see a typo and

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you know the usual ufo twitter stuff or

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someone's going to call bs and it just

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got this amazing reaction really and um

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ever since it's kind of like snowballed

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in a really cool direction

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well i think i think

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the entire show is already in love with

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you just based on your answers to those

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first questions we already love you

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christopher uh and your experience you

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know growing up dealing with that

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illness kind of reminds me of a young

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man named richard starkey who some

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people know as ringo starr that had to

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uh overcome some of that to become the

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beatles drummer uh let's pass it on to

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the next cabbie lest i i hog any of your

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time

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well chris i want to jump in there so

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you know i love what i love that story

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that you shared with us and what i

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wanted to ask you really ties well into

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that experience so there's this

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you know very kind of left brain and

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right brain components to

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ufology you know there's like what we

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can study

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what we can report on what we can

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interview about and then what we and

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then what many people experience and

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what we have found and talking with

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folks

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uh is that a lot of people have

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experiences they have stories or they

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know someone who has but very few of us

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have had that kind of uh left brain

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analytical exposure to it so what's your

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sort of take on on

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at you know with your publication and

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writing uh stories about this you know

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how do you find that balance between the

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things that you can get quotes on and

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facts from and and the things that

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people want to share in their personal

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experience or history

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great question it's very very intuitive

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so

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um

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you're kind of like feeling the article

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you know you're um

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so i mean it goes through a process

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there's the idea

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um sometimes you can even meditate and

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the idea will come to you of what you

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should be writing about which i find

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quite interesting um so there's an

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aspect to it getting the idea um and

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then

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it's kind of um

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it's just writing then what's on your

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mind writing what's on your mind and

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what argument or

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topic you want to put forth

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um

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and then once you've done that

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then you have to

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the sandwich filler

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you know reference things ground things

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um

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add quotations

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ask people who know more about the

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subject of me

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because

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at the end of the day there's so many

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people who know so much more than me um

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so i i rely on them and so i've got my

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sources that can really really help me

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and sometimes i'll put a story by them

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and they'll come up with ideas of how i

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could improve it

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um

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or they'll come up with a quotation that

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will take the story in another direction

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um so i really rely on those people who

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know more than me

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um

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and then what i do is like once i've got

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all that together i've kind of got my

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argument i've got what i'm talking about

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the topics i've got the quotations

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support it

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and then what i'm thinking is i'm

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thinking okay

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to

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a person that doesn't know anything

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about ufos like let's say if a senator

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was going to going to read this piece

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what are they going to think

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so then i need to start grounding

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grounding kind of like my um

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my topic so for instance when we did the

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adrian rice's story

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it was very very important because

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i mean yes seeing stuff in the sky

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that's acknowledged now that's a real

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thing you know uaps i mean that's

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acknowledged by senators um

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and even scientists getting on board

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that something's going on but then when

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it comes to a shadow person

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i mean that might be a step too far and

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you know if you're someone from the dod

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you need to ground that you need to make

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you need to kind of like um make it

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appear as though it is actually

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something that is legitimately of

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concern so you have to kind of like

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contextualize it saying actually there

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are

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is technology around that will obscure

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someone it's like a camouflage

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um and make them perhaps look like a

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shadow so there is that technology which

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may be around and that and i managed to

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find a source for that

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slap grounded it so

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and at the end of the day like adrian

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says like if anyone el if anyone you

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know enters into that those premises

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whether it's you know um bigfoot

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or

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you know um

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a squirrel or anyone like that you know

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it's bad

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and these people take psychological

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evaluations as well you can't just

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you know have the role as a nuclear

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engineer that adrian did without having

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those evaluations

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so

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yeah it's

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you have to really ground those articles

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basically

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uh

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yeah but there's that whole kind of like

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thing kind of like you have to kind of

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like read it from a third perspective

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and then obviously as well you have to

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proofread it time and time again read

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out loud make sure that you

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got no typos and stuff and

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yeah it's a

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it's yeah it really is a process you've

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got to use both

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halves of the mind really it's uh it's

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difficult really difficult and a lot of

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other teams a lot of publications you

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know they've got big teams and editors

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and

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for me for the most part i just rely on

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some friends and

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put the article out there and pray for

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the best

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well you're doing great so

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can can i ask a follow-up just to that

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comment because you were talking about

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going through this process of evaluating

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those stories and then seeing you know

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if you put this in front of somebody you

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know how are they going to react to this

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that kind of limit you

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in um

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being able to cover you know more broad

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topics that that might not be so welcome

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like you know or so welcome to the

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mainstream like the power you know

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consciousness

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uh remote viewing any you know anything

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like that does that kind of limit

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you know where you can go

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and

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how do you how do you deal with that

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because that's you know that's part of

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it so

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yeah no great question definitely um i

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won't name anyone but i have received

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tweets before saying how can you report

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that story that's going too far and

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that's too woo and stuff like that and

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i mean i i i tread a really really fine

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line because obviously when you've got a

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publication

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you've got you know people

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from all kinds of corners of ufa twitter

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who are kind of like reading it and

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obviously you've got outside people

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perhaps as well like people you know in

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washington and

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journalists as well

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looking to report on something um

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so you've really you've really got to

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to balance that

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but as i see it um

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there's a time and place for everything

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and

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i think eventually you know we'll get

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there we can start talking about some of

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this stuff like remote viewing and you

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know a story that i really want to

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feature

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is um the peter curry case

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um not no i'm not sure if you're

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familiar with it but it was a big case

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in australia whereby

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a um an australian australian man um

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he basically woke up to

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this being

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on top of him

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oh my goodness

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yeah let's just say on top of him i'll

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leave it at that but um okay okay

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but basically she had um

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long blonde hair

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like bright one hair

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um and but the face didn't look right

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the proportions stuff

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very very big eyes

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very very kind of like thin nose

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um

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and

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yeah she just didn't look right really

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big forehead

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um

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and she didn't talk and there was

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another woman in the room as well

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um who had dark hair looks very very

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chinese and by the way the blonde haired

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girl she kind of like looked oriental as

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well but anyhow um he claims that they

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were um communicating telepathically

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um and he said he received lots of

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information as well telepathically what

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happened in the future and that

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information

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um came to be true as well

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so he said that but also he had dna

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samples as well back up his case so

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um

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let's just say that he managed to get

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hold of some blonde hairs two blond

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hairs from the being on top of him wow

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and he got them studied in the lab

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and

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it ended up the

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it was extremely extremely extremely

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rare dna um it was kind of

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it was half

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from

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um

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like an ancient chinese [\h__\h] tribe

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which is very very like a really really

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obscure tribe and the other part of

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sequencing was

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of celtic origin a very very rare celtic

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origin from the united kingdom

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they just to this day they can't make

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sense of it

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wow told you i was a hybrid i told you

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guys you didn't believe me

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we're going to get back to remote

570
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:36,559
viewing in that case later but not

571
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:40,240
before we get to my man florius kevin

572
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,840
oh um actually i don't have anything on

573
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,120
topic right now

574
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,679
oh well great we can go

575
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:49,280
yeah i mean we can go i wanted to

576
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,280
actually go back to um when you say

577
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:53,840
you're writing stuff you say it's

578
00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:56,080
kind of almost feels like it's it's you

579
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:59,039
don't know where it's coming from

580
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,799
did you mention that could you maybe

581
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,320
expand more on that i thought that was

582
00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,919
really interesting because i experienced

583
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:05,360
that too when i'm like making these

584
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,559
videos i don't know where it's coming

585
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,600
from it just comes out

586
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:12,400
yeah you know definitely and um yeah i

587
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,840
think it was um

588
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:15,600
it was tesla

589
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:18,159
who was who claimed nikolai tesler

590
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,480
claimed that like

591
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,080
ideas and stuff just come from the

592
00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:24,080
universe and he listened to like

593
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:26,159
songwriters and stuff like bob dylan i

594
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,919
believe has basically said it's kind of

595
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:30,080
like a stream and he'll be fishing or

596
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:31,840
something like that and he'll just catch

597
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:32,799
a song

598
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,600
you know and yeah problems like that um

599
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:37,840
and then you look at neil young as well

600
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:40,799
um and obviously he's had kind of

601
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:43,200
epileptic experiences

602
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,240
um

603
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,720
and at least hallucigenic experiences as

604
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,120
well and um i always found it funny that

605
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:51,120
one of his songs was called after the

606
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,400
gold rush

607
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:55,039
um from the album subtitle album and

608
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:56,320
that really resonates i think chris

609
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,679
bledsoe mentioned that the lady

610
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,679
claimed that that song was of importance

611
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:03,840
or something but wow he wrote that song

612
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:06,000
for a movie neil young did

613
00:23:10,310 --> 00:23:07,679
um it never got released in the end but

614
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:10,320
it was about it was about um an ended

615
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,280
world

616
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,520
event happening um

617
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:15,360
and like california or something being

618
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:17,679
wiped off the map hence the name after

619
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:19,039
the gold rush because everyone came to

620
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,830
um

621
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:29,919
i think in terms of

622
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,559
the linguistic process it's very very

623
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:33,760
complex

624
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:35,120
which i've learned from like my

625
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,960
condition um

626
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,480
you know if i do get flare-ups i have to

627
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:41,200
put myself in a meditative state i can't

628
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,799
think because even when you think you're

629
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,559
thinking in language and

630
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,720
words in your head and stuff and that

631
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:48,159
really sets a lot for me because the

632
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,919
mind my mind my brain gets hyper excited

633
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:53,360
you know everything's firing in the

634
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,200
wrong direction which causes seizures i

635
00:23:59,669 --> 00:23:57,840
have to kind of really quiet my mind um

636
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,679
because obviously like when you're

637
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,000
taking language and you're hearing it

638
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,159
and it just feels instantaneously like

639
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,760
every word

640
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:08,080
you're like processing the meaning

641
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:09,360
you know like when you're listening to

642
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:11,039
me talk right now

643
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,640
there's a sound coming out of my mouth

644
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:14,080
but also like

645
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,760
subconsciously everything's like going

646
00:24:19,269 --> 00:24:17,279
for your brain to like make meaning of

647
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,279
each word i'm saying as well

648
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,880
and it just so happens when it happens

649
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:23,039
to me it's just yeah goes all over the

650
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,080
place um but when i came from a seizure

651
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,559
once and had paramedics

652
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,720
looking after me um i'd been reading

653
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,200
jane eyre the book jane eyre and um

654
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:34,559
obviously that was written i think it

655
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,600
was in the 19th century so um when i

656
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:39,600
woke up i was speaking with a 19th

657
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:42,720
century dialect to the paramedics

658
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:47,990
christopher is this a tool can you can

659
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:51,039
you use this as a tool creatively

660
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,000
um being aware of it i feel yeah i feel

661
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:56,240
like you have an intuitive sense

662
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,799
of language and

663
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:00,960
meaning and

664
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:02,960
yeah let's put it really you know i

665
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,120
brought this up because i've i've heard

666
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,440
people they say that their connection

667
00:25:11,269 --> 00:25:09,039
with the phenomenon may be just

668
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:11,279
channeling these things you know art

669
00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:12,799
stuff like that so maybe that could be

670
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,919
your connection it could be your

671
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:15,279
experience

672
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,159
you know

673
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,840
like your mother has her own personal

674
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,919
connection your brother does you know

675
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,440
this could be yours

676
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,960
i feel maybe sometimes this might be

677
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:24,559
mine all my weird

678
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:28,000
art stuff yeah

679
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:29,600
you ever meditate and then like when

680
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,039
you're meditating kind of like good

681
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,279
ideas and stuff come from it yes

682
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,279
absolutely like sometimes when i'm done

683
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:37,360
meditating i'll be able to write a song

684
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:39,600
just the music it just comes to me yeah

685
00:25:44,789 --> 00:25:43,200
or poetry stuff like that definitely

686
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,799
that's very powerful that's very

687
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:46,559
powerful i think we do listen to a lot

688
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:47,679
of the

689
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:49,200
singing song writers and stuff i feel

690
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:50,000
like

691
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:53,600
meditation

692
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:54,840
or

693
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,559
um let's say coincidence serendipity

694
00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,640
like um you know you listen to like paul

695
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,000
mccartney and

696
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,400
um and john lennon speaking interviews

697
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:06,080
and stuff about how they wrote songs and

698
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:07,039
they used to look through the local

699
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:15,350
you can just tap into it it's weird yeah

700
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:16,240
yeah

701
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,679
definitely i think that's why sarah

702
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,600
deputy plays it because if you if you're

703
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:21,360
looking for something the universe will

704
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:23,679
provide you the answer

705
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,840
yeah before we pass it to deb i i just

706
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,520
realized that i think christopher knows

707
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:29,200
more about my music than i know neil

708
00:26:32,710 --> 00:26:30,159
young

709
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,720
bob dylan the beatles so that's awesome

710
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:34,880
man we brothers now holmes

711
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:38,080
so all right let me pass it to depths

712
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,360
okay so

713
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:41,760
speaking of tapping into things one of

714
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:44,640
the focuses that we've seen in the

715
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:48,880
liberation times has been on foreign

716
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:53,120
affairs related to uaps um including you

717
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:55,919
know the um san marino

718
00:27:00,789 --> 00:26:58,880
um work to get to the u.n

719
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:00,799
um some work on

720
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,120
the vatican and so on and so forth so i

721
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,520
just wanted to know you know what where

722
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:08,240
are things going with that at this time

723
00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:11,279
um how are things going with the

724
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:14,320
progress of reaching the u.n and foreign

725
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:17,679
affairs related to uaps in general

726
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:20,000
sure really good question so i i got

727
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:21,120
into this

728
00:27:26,070 --> 00:27:23,200
um via akam

729
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,080
um on twitter who i mean

730
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,720
he's not just someone who kind of um

731
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,720
he's he's he's great at kind of like

732
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:32,880
disputing the news and stuff

733
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:35,200
he's a fantastic aggregator but i think

734
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:36,960
a lot of people don't realize that he's

735
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:38,480
got an immense amount of knowledge in

736
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:41,679
terms of international like

737
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,919
ufo cases and what's going on

738
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,440
politically and stuff and between all

739
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,520
the different groups in europe and stuff

740
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:48,880
so um

741
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:49,760
yes

742
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:51,840
i mean i covered this at first

743
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,320
in terms of the um i think it was called

744
00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:56,480
five continents events organized by

745
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:57,600
china

746
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:58,559
um

747
00:28:03,430 --> 00:28:01,440
and china has from my understanding the

748
00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:03,440
largest ufo

749
00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:05,520
organization in the world

750
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,080
to be a part of the organization

751
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:10,080
you've got to have

752
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:12,559
like a phd or something incredible like

753
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:13,360
that

754
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:15,360
um

755
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:17,039
you don't just get into one of those

756
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,240
groups saying that i'm interested in

757
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:19,600
your voice you've got to have like the

758
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,240
actual degrees and stuff and

759
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,159
and a lot of paranormal stuff is

760
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,480
outlawed by china so the fact that they

761
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,200
even allow a ufo group to kind of like

762
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:31,840
be it you know be legal in that country

763
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,559
um is really really quite astonishing

764
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:36,320
and then for that group

765
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,960
to play a big role in organizing these

766
00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,320
big events

767
00:28:44,230 --> 00:28:42,799
um the first one in one of the chinese

768
00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:44,240
provinces and then the second one in

769
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:47,440
moscow and you had um it was really

770
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,000
weird i mean these are huge events and

771
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,240
it was government funded as well

772
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,399
government-funded um so the chinese

773
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:56,720
government from understanding

774
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,640
was actually

775
00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:00,640
kind of helping organize these events

776
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,960
and it wasn't just no one you had like

777
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,559
you know former russian astronauts and

778
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:06,159
people like that attending

779
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,279
and

780
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,799
they're the ones who kind of got the

781
00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:11,279
main players of ice reward like roberto

782
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:14,320
pennotti and gary hesseltine like that

783
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:15,600
they were the ones who brought them on

784
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,120
board and

785
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:19,440
from my understanding it was heading to

786
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,960
the um

787
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:22,640
um and that was that was what they were

788
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:24,000
trying to do from my understanding as

789
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:26,159
well i mean akan might have to correct

790
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,360
me but i think the plan was like

791
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,840
the chinese effort to take it to the un

792
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:33,600
via san marino

793
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,559
um

794
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,320
and then just everything went quiet in

795
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:39,360
2018 everything went quiet um people

796
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:42,399
blaming the pandemic and stuff but

797
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,000
it you know i mean that was too

798
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:45,679
premature for it to be

799
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:48,559
due to the pandemic so it all went quiet

800
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:50,159
and then all of a sudden those people

801
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,399
that try to put together came together

802
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,799
themselves created icer

803
00:29:58,070 --> 00:29:56,720
and now we have a situation today

804
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,080
whereby

805
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:00,640
project titan which is

806
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:03,679
a proposal to or the plan

807
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,200
to take it to the um is now with the

808
00:30:10,549 --> 00:30:09,600
heads of state of san marino

809
00:30:12,389 --> 00:30:10,559
um

810
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,399
so a few weeks ago they had a meeting

811
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:14,960
with roberto pennotti

812
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:17,360
and a former kind of like san marino

813
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:19,360
minister who's also on board with the

814
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:20,240
effort

815
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,200
and

816
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,600
they provided him they provided the head

817
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:25,520
state with a presentation

818
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:27,679
um i was told as well the presentation

819
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:29,279
included one of my articles which was

820
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,640
pretty cool um so yeah they

821
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:35,120
provided that for the head to san marino

822
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,399
um heads of state of san marino

823
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:40,720
now need to talk to

824
00:30:43,669 --> 00:30:41,520
like

825
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:43,679
their version of the cabinet where you

826
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,399
call

827
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:46,159
all the portfolio holders and stuff like

828
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:47,200
that

829
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,880
and then what they'll have to do they'll

830
00:30:53,909 --> 00:30:51,120
have to come to a joint decision whether

831
00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:53,919
or not to actually um

832
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:56,159
go ahead of this and propose it to the

833
00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,240
united nations but from my understanding

834
00:31:01,269 --> 00:30:59,840
everything's very very positive it went

835
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:01,279
down very very well with the heads of

836
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,000
states um so i'm really really hoping

837
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:06,960
that we we can get somewhere on this and

838
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,440
my hope is that i can help in some way

839
00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,039
kind of like

840
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,799
firstly help report this in a very very

841
00:31:16,389 --> 00:31:14,080
credible way

842
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:16,399
and also kind of like help get that out

843
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:19,039
to more mainstream media as well and

844
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:20,480
influence the way that they report it so

845
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,320
it's not just like oh san marino look

846
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,559
what they've done they've got this crazy

847
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:25,840
ufo thing that they're putting forward

848
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:28,880
to the end no i won't report it properly

849
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:32,080
um so that that's yeah sorry it's quite

850
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:33,679
a winding road answer there but that

851
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,159
that's what i'm getting at really

852
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,240
the long and winding road we're back to

853
00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,640
the beatles all right money's getting

854
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:42,559
funny i love that and actually comes

855
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,480
into my next question so

856
00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:46,640
there's an it seems to be a tremendous

857
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,720
appetite for this topic right i mean

858
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,320
we've heard from

859
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,720
uh leslie kane and ralph blumenthal we

860
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:54,399
we know the new york times piece that

861
00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,600
they did

862
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,200
and and and the same thing with 60

863
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,880
minutes these pieces get a lot of

864
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:00,559
attention there's a lot of interest in

865
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,840
the public on this topic

866
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:05,519
but at the same time it feels like it

867
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:07,600
gets throttled like it's it's it's

868
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:09,039
strange to me and i just wonder your

869
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:10,799
take on this as a journalist

870
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,640
you know you're we

871
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,720
we are hungry for this information and

872
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:16,240
what governments know

873
00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,039
and i think most people seem to believe

874
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:21,200
that the government knows something they

875
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:23,600
have some knowledge that we don't have

876
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:24,480
um

877
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,519
like it's just really very controlled

878
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:32,480
uh do you have a sense that that is true

879
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,360
why doesn't it get more traction in in

880
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:37,840
mainstream circles

881
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,679
very very good question so

882
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,200
um

883
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,440
it's it's a stigma it's a stigma it's

884
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:45,519
also group think as well because you

885
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,519
have to think a lot of these

886
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:49,120
editors and

887
00:32:53,909 --> 00:32:52,320
owners of publications

888
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:53,919
you know in america a lot of them went

889
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:56,080
to ivy league schools

890
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,240
they know a lot of the senators as well

891
00:33:03,110 --> 00:33:00,159
there's a lot of group thinking there

892
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,120
um and they just kind of like see ufo

893
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:05,760
related stuff fringe topic and they

894
00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:07,200
don't really want to be associated with

895
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:08,880
that because then when they go to their

896
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:11,360
parties on rhode island wherever they go

897
00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,710
you know and that doesn't help you know

898
00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:18,720
a lot of these guys they really

899
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,080
care about their status and they say

900
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,760
that from someone who's worked a lot of

901
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:22,960
oxbridge

902
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,159
um people in you know my career there is

903
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:28,159
a lot of groupthink and these people

904
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,840
they really want to kind of um you know

905
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,679
they see that their social circle was

906
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:33,279
crucial to kind of like helping them

907
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:35,840
progress in their careers you know

908
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,240
so you know if you like a a politician

909
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:40,000
in the uk you could be a back back

910
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,200
bencher which means that you don't have

911
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:43,200
a minister or a ministerial

912
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,480
government position

913
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,399
um you know and you're desperate for

914
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,760
that promotion you know you want to

915
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,279
become a minister

916
00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:51,360
um or the prime minister one day let's

917
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,919
say and you know if i take this issue to

918
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:55,039
you as

919
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,679
you know a politician you're not gonna

920
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,880
you're not gonna take it forward because

921
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,399
it could harm your career

922
00:34:03,350 --> 00:34:02,159
um and this is like journalists as well

923
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,360
they don't wanna be known as that if you

924
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:05,120
wanna be become like an editor like a

925
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,559
major like newspaper or something like

926
00:34:11,430 --> 00:34:08,639
that you're thinking this might hurt my

927
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,440
cause um but it is changing it is

928
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:13,200
changing i mean i'm in touch with some

929
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,879
journalists and

930
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,960
you know they very much view this now as

931
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:18,960
something they need to get on board with

932
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:21,280
and have conversations like yourself

933
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,639
um

934
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,399
so that they can be on top of the story

935
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:26,560
when the you know big news breaks

936
00:34:30,550 --> 00:34:28,000
because

937
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,560
i mean looking at the ndaa

938
00:34:35,109 --> 00:34:32,639
2022 there are signs that something is

939
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:35,119
going on beneath the circuit surface and

940
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,280
when you're seeing the nuclear

941
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,520
the nuclear related stuff

942
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:41,040
in the bill i mean that's not

943
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,320
coincidental when you're seeing the

944
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,560
physiological stuff in the bill that's

945
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:46,079
not coincidental so you have to ask

946
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:48,159
yourself as a serious journalist where

947
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:50,480
are serious sentences like

948
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:53,280
gillibrand and rubio getting this from

949
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:55,520
why they're not just including nuclear

950
00:35:01,349 --> 00:34:58,800
materials and storage and physiological

951
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,359
impacts just for nothing or on a whim i

952
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:02,480
mean these are people that want to

953
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:03,920
become presidents

954
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:06,320
um in the future so i think journalists

955
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,400
get that now and my advice always to

956
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,079
journalists is to ground it

957
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:11,920
in that ndaa

958
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,119
because

959
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:15,200
although it may seem quite tedious and

960
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,480
boring and

961
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,040
bureaucratic you've got some astonishing

962
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,119
stuff in there as well i mean that

963
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:23,280
allows you as a journalist to kind of

964
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:26,640
like speculate now on the physiological

965
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:27,920
effects

966
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:28,720
and

967
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,720
you know the nuclear connection as well

968
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,640
which is what i did in you know one of

969
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:35,119
my recent stories about um

970
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:38,079
about skin skin walkers at pentagon um i

971
00:35:42,470 --> 00:35:39,760
was able to kind of like report on the

972
00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,480
nimitz case because it's been told to me

973
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,000
that there were

974
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:46,720
ontological effects from

975
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:48,880
um the phenomenon which caused

976
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,680
psychological trauma um

977
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,480
to the people involved

978
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,640
and that's seen that's the defense

979
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,560
consequence there because

980
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:00,640
it could it could mean that you know

981
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:02,880
these people who were

982
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:05,520
flying you know

983
00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:07,280
millions of dollars worth of fighter

984
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,640
jets with live armament you know above

985
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,520
u.s soil i mean if they've got

986
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:14,800
you know if they've got

987
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:17,119
you know psychological trauma

988
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:18,880
that's a major deal that

989
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,960
and that's why it's so important to get

990
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,960
out there and stop the stigma and and

991
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,160
you know

992
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:26,400
we're we're getting somewhere now with

993
00:36:29,910 --> 00:36:27,359
the

994
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:29,920
navy which is fantastic people can talk

995
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,920
freely about this now but what about air

996
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:33,520
force pilots

997
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,640
as well that can carry nuclear armor

998
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,720
routes so why are we not having that

999
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,960
conversation there you know and helping

1000
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,240
those pilots talk about their

1001
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,640
experiences because

1002
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,720
i mean if you know the speculation is

1003
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:48,240
that sightings are

1004
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,520
actually accelerating you're getting

1005
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:51,760
more sightings out of eops now more than

1006
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,440
ever i mean this is something really

1007
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:55,200
really important if i'm in sense i'm

1008
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,640
like look you've got to get on top of

1009
00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:58,720
this because if pilots are frequently

1010
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,599
encountering this it poses a huge huge

1011
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:03,839
threat not just kind of like uaps

1012
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,160
themselves but the pilots and impacts

1013
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:08,560
that they're suffering so it's hugely

1014
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:10,240
important

1015
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,800
so just can i ask a quick follow-up on

1016
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:14,160
that sure

1017
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:16,880
only because we were reading the article

1018
00:37:20,230 --> 00:37:18,560
that you wrote about skinwalkers of the

1019
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:20,240
pentagon

1020
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,520
you actually drew several parallels to

1021
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,440
some of the things that you saw that

1022
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,040
were being implemented as part of the

1023
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,200
ndaa and the actions that were being

1024
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:31,040
taken if you wanted to cover a couple of

1025
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:33,040
others of those because you had you kind

1026
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:35,119
of outlined them all and it was really

1027
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:36,800
fascinating

1028
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,920
oh yes so um in the appendices

1029
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,880
um

1030
00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:42,560
you had

1031
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,800
recommendations that they put forward

1032
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,320
and i don't think

1033
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,480
the thing about that book is that

1034
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:52,640
people just immediately caught on to oh

1035
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:54,720
gosh this thing will um skim walker

1036
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:55,839
ranch and

1037
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,400
um all these you know

1038
00:38:01,349 --> 00:38:00,240
sightings of creatures and stuff like

1039
00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:01,359
that and

1040
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:03,280
you know it really got sensationalized

1041
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:06,160
and you know people lost the fact that

1042
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,079
these are serious people stereo

1043
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,640
scientists and you know they've actually

1044
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,240
kind of made some important

1045
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,400
recommendations in there as well about

1046
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:16,320
how we can move forward in terms of a

1047
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:19,599
uap investigation um so yeah they had

1048
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:22,240
several recommendations and

1049
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,440
i just thought they were really really

1050
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,520
important it's just kind of like how you

1051
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:27,040
would function

1052
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:28,800
as part of the investigation so one of

1053
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,800
them for example would

1054
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:32,400
someone on your team would have to have

1055
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:33,440
knowledge

1056
00:38:36,630 --> 00:38:34,320
on

1057
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,640
u.s black projects

1058
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,240
one to rule

1059
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,640
you know the technology out as being the

1060
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:41,760
culprit

1061
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:43,520
the other is let's say if it is russian

1062
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,079
or chinese which i doubt it is um but

1063
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,160
either way it could become you know a

1064
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,480
defense something of defense importance

1065
00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,560
you know you've got to make sure that

1066
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:54,320
you have something in your inventory

1067
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:55,680
that can counter that as well so there

1068
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:57,119
needs to be that connection it's like

1069
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,839
okay so you've got this craft which is

1070
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,440
got this capability

1071
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:03,680
how do we defend ourselves

1072
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,599
i mean we don't we don't know the

1073
00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:07,440
intentions and

1074
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,960
that's that's the thing and i know that

1075
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:11,040
everyone has different

1076
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:12,240
different kind of like thoughts and

1077
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:13,760
beliefs and stuff

1078
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:16,000
on what the intentions are but

1079
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,680
it could be more complex you know what

1080
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,680
if there are like several civilizations

1081
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,119
visiting this planet some are friendly

1082
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:23,280
some are not friendly

1083
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:25,359
the universe is so complex so i mean

1084
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,480
you've got to rule that kind of like

1085
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,960
stuff out um and it's kind of like

1086
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:31,280
having field teams as well

1087
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,280
um located in different parts of the

1088
00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,480
country so they can actually um react

1089
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:38,720
quickly to any unfolding events and

1090
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,560
stuff so you might have one on the west

1091
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,000
coast another on the east coast maybe

1092
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:44,560
another um which is more inland that can

1093
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,440
react to um cases where nuclear

1094
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,960
facilities is being tampered with and

1095
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,280
stuff um so there's all sorts of things

1096
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:53,119
and another another one would be kind of

1097
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:54,240
like

1098
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,760
an apparatus that you would have to kind

1099
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,760
of filter all the data coming in to make

1100
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,000
sure that the most important data is

1101
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:02,640
going to the directors

1102
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,960
of that program so they have the most

1103
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,480
important crucial

1104
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,319
information at their disposal so if they

1105
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,000
need to escalate something immediately

1106
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,720
they can and when they're actually

1107
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:14,160
uh briefing

1108
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:15,599
congress

1109
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:16,400
they

1110
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:18,160
can actually have the

1111
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:19,599
most important

1112
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,680
and reliable pieces of data to kind of

1113
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:23,599
back them up and stuff so

1114
00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,760
that's very important and senses

1115
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,359
chris mellon's mentioned before but

1116
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:29,520
senses and having access to their senses

1117
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,400
as well

1118
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,720
is really important um

1119
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,800
and i think the satellite imagery that

1120
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,240
they have as well is

1121
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:38,000
i think it's really really advanced i

1122
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,920
think a lot of these cases that you're

1123
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,280
seeing and stuff yes they're being

1124
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,040
spotted by the pilots i think they've

1125
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:45,440
got sensors as well perhaps picking up

1126
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:47,359
electromagnetism

1127
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:48,720
radiation so i think they're picking

1128
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:50,960
that kind of stuff up as well but also i

1129
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,599
think that you know i think they've got

1130
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,880
satellites that

1131
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,720
kind of like view these events taking

1132
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,560
place as well because

1133
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,920
they're that good i mean you've heard

1134
00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,359
the story about the hubble telescope

1135
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:02,800
haven't you um

1136
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,240
and um national constance office i mean

1137
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,000
it was only a few years ago when

1138
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,160
national reconnaissance office basically

1139
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:13,040
went up to nasa and said um we've got

1140
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,119
two telescopes we don't need them

1141
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,040
anymore they're yours you just have them

1142
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,280
for free we don't need them and

1143
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:21,839
these two telescopes were

1144
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,920
both of them were better

1145
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,599
than the hubble telescope

1146
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:26,800
wow

1147
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:29,920
okay if you don't need these telescopes

1148
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:31,520
what else do you have that we don't know

1149
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,079
about

1150
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:36,240
yeah there's some significant hardware

1151
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,440
out there that's why i'm going to be

1152
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,040
really curious what

1153
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,920
the galileo project is able to afford i

1154
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:43,520
also very much agree with your

1155
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,000
hypothesis i speculate also that there's

1156
00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:48,160
several different maybe intelligences at

1157
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:49,119
play

1158
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:50,960
we have no idea what their intentions

1159
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,119
are that they're there

1160
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:55,680
makes them a potential threat not a

1161
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:58,000
dynamic or existential threat but

1162
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,880
definitely

1163
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,119
a potential threat because we can't

1164
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:03,520
seem to make them do anything

1165
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,839
communicate with them you know

1166
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:07,680
and of course there's speculation on

1167
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,359
whether or not we're able to draw them

1168
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:11,040
into following or

1169
00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:12,319
or or

1170
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,560
performing some sort of an action that

1171
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,560
we want just to see if we can draw them

1172
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,880
in that that's speculation

1173
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,359
um i was going to ask you though back to

1174
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:23,680
i know that uh you know just reading

1175
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:27,440
your your work which is excellent and um

1176
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:30,480
is very important in in this space

1177
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:31,839
that you're there

1178
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,200
um

1179
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:35,200
and that you're doing it at the level

1180
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,560
that you are

1181
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,480
are doing it i assume you you have some

1182
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:40,800
really good sources do you have a sense

1183
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:41,440
of

1184
00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:43,839
that the san marinens for example or

1185
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:45,599
some of these other countries have a

1186
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:48,640
significant file that are is yet to be

1187
00:42:57,030 --> 00:42:54,790
have a have a significant file on your

1188
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,040
aps like cases and stuff

1189
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,359
my cat's attacking my light

1190
00:43:03,190 --> 00:43:02,160
calm down girlfriend okay is she acting

1191
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:03,200
up again

1192
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,800
um anyway

1193
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,480
yeah like basically what i'm saying like

1194
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,119
through your sources are you aware of

1195
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,040
other through your sources that other

1196
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:13,520
countries have a significant file and

1197
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:16,000
it's it's yet to be disclosed or or yet

1198
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,079
to be revealed that they have a

1199
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,920
significant file we don't talk about it

1200
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,200
we only talk about the united states

1201
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:23,280
australia and the uk

1202
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:24,480
and china

1203
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,760
absolutely yeah yeah i mean um

1204
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:30,079
we know that um china has its own task

1205
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:31,200
force now

1206
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:32,400
um

1207
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:34,400
i suspect that's

1208
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,560
that's been something that's been

1209
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:38,160
happening for years because it's

1210
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,240
probably you know they've been a rising

1211
00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,839
superpower that's had to start from the

1212
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:42,800
bottom

1213
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,880
and they've had to have some way to

1214
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,280
distinguish what's a black us project

1215
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,200
flying over its territory and what

1216
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,960
particularly might be something else so

1217
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:51,920
i mean they've probably had that

1218
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,680
capability and investigation for some

1219
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:55,680
time now um

1220
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,319
so and then also i mean you look at you

1221
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,240
look at france as well i mean i did an

1222
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:02,560
article in france and from

1223
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:03,760
there

1224
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:10,550
it's i think it was something like

1225
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:13,280
people when when you ask people what

1226
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,160
francis like longest land border is

1227
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,720
they're like oh it's probably germany or

1228
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:20,560
belgium or something like that but it's

1229
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,160
not it's something like brazil

1230
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:26,800
because it's got french guyana um

1231
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:28,160
but wow

1232
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,240
yeah and i mean french overseas

1233
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:32,480
territory is very expansive and

1234
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,119
um they've got lots of kind of exclusive

1235
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:36,960
economic area as well which kind of

1236
00:44:41,430 --> 00:44:40,079
covers a large portion of the ocean i

1237
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,440
mean there's a map that you can look at

1238
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,280
online which shows you

1239
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:45,760
the i think the exclusive economic area

1240
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:48,240
of france it's massive if you include

1241
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:49,760
that then france is like the second or

1242
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:52,000
third biggest country in the world um

1243
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,119
but you have to imagine that they're

1244
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,440
monitoring those spaces all the time

1245
00:44:58,550 --> 00:44:56,880
right um

1246
00:45:00,630 --> 00:44:58,560
but i mean from what my sources are

1247
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,640
telling me yes ms stephanie

1248
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:02,720
stephanie there are extensive extensive

1249
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,240
files happening um

1250
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,640
i i think france's

1251
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:11,280
ufo organizer ufo investigation from

1252
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,640
understanding

1253
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,400
is very very extensive

1254
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:17,359
um it may go beyond

1255
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:18,880
the the gipan

1256
00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:22,079
which is their kind of official ufo

1257
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,720
investigation um but from what i'm

1258
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:26,720
hearing that's pretty extensive

1259
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:29,599
um my own country i don't

1260
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:31,200
i'm not really sure

1261
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:35,040
what uk is doing still i have no idea

1262
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,160
nobody else

1263
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:38,240
we keep secrets there's there's a reason

1264
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:40,720
why this small

1265
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:41,760
country

1266
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:44,319
on the north sea has been around for

1267
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:47,040
you know over a thousand years you know

1268
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:48,960
secrets are important to helping us kind

1269
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:51,440
of like survive and i think that culture

1270
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,319
kind of like extends on to the ufo

1271
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:56,720
phenomenon but i think

1272
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:58,640
i think there is a capability that

1273
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,359
exists still but also i think that we're

1274
00:46:04,150 --> 00:46:03,280
intrinsically linked to the americans as

1275
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,160
well

1276
00:46:08,550 --> 00:46:05,680
i mean i'm originally from a place

1277
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:08,560
called reading in rural berkshire um

1278
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,000
and

1279
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,880
we store nuclear weapons near where i

1280
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:14,640
used to live and there's lots of ufo

1281
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:15,680
encounters

1282
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,599
there as well my brother always sees

1283
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,359
um ufos

1284
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,520
right outside the nuclear facility but

1285
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,200
no one else seems to care

1286
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:27,760
these things are in the sky um but i

1287
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:28,640
mean

1288
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:34,640
i think

1289
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,720
yeah so that nuclear facility sorry i

1290
00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,400
lost my train of thought there that

1291
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,920
nuclear facility where we kept our

1292
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,440
nuclear weapons

1293
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:43,440
up until like last year i think that was

1294
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,280
run by lockheed martin

1295
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:47,520
an american contractor

1296
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,800
so quite literally our nuclear deterrent

1297
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:53,359
is linked to the united states military

1298
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,440
and its contractors that's how close we

1299
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,680
are drawing the join together

1300
00:47:03,190 --> 00:46:59,760
um the researcher timothy good even

1301
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,200
speculated at one time that um

1302
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,760
you know the mod is the extension of the

1303
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,040
dod

1304
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,119
um

1305
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,200
but obviously yeah speculation but we

1306
00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:12,960
just reiterate how close we are as

1307
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,319
allies um so i think yeah but yeah go

1308
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,960
back to your question yes there is

1309
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,640
lucky there's a facility in cambridge

1310
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:22,960
too they get around man

1311
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:25,359
but anyway let me pass over to depp's

1312
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:26,720
because we're going to take this long

1313
00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:27,920
and winding road we're going to take

1314
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,720
another sharp curve debs what you got

1315
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:33,040
for christopher i don't know if it's all

1316
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:34,640
that long in whiting we were just

1317
00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,480
talking about lockheed martin so

1318
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:40,559
i was i was gonna ask you you were

1319
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,319
interested in

1320
00:47:46,340 --> 00:47:44,640
uh crash retrievals yes there's the

1321
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,350
segway from lockheed dude

1322
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,000
[Laughter]

1323
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:51,200
yes um yeah not to lockheed

1324
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,040
i just wanted to know how you were doing

1325
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,200
with your investigation on that i know

1326
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:58,800
that's a subject of interest for you

1327
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:03,280
it is yes um very very important topic

1328
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:05,040
um

1329
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,119
and

1330
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:09,440
something will be coming out quite soon

1331
00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:10,720
um

1332
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:13,280
what it is i can't say

1333
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:14,960
but i mean there's a very very different

1334
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:17,760
component to your crash retrievals

1335
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:18,720
um

1336
00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,160
which is kind of being hinted at but

1337
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:22,160
it's not really caught on yet but

1338
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,680
there's a hidden

1339
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:25,680
hidden component to it but

1340
00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:26,800
i mean

1341
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:28,190
if you think about it like this

1342
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,520
[Music]

1343
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:32,079
i mean if crash retrievals are a real

1344
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:33,680
thing which i think

1345
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,160
the evidence is pointing towards

1346
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,240
um from anecdotal accounts and the

1347
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,400
pedigree people talking about them

1348
00:48:44,549 --> 00:48:41,920
um

1349
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,559
then that's a huge huge deal

1350
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,800
if it's something of extraterrestrial

1351
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,040
technology

1352
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:51,359
now that's got the biggest kind of like

1353
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,839
significance of anything in the world

1354
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:55,599
everything else powers in comparison

1355
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,800
because if you master that technology

1356
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,119
whether you're china or america

1357
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:03,119
the world is yours

1358
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:04,319
that's important

1359
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:05,760
if it is that technology that we think

1360
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,359
it is

1361
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,520
that is possessed by uap you control

1362
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,000
that and that's it and if you feel if

1363
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,760
you think about that in a real world

1364
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:15,920
scenario get beyond the ukraine crisis

1365
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,839
which is obviously very very serious and

1366
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,839
you know all these other kind of um hot

1367
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,839
spots in the world and stuff like that

1368
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:23,440
this kind of everything powers in

1369
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:24,640
comparison because you've got this

1370
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,520
technology all of a sudden that can

1371
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,079
yeah it's

1372
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,920
that's still kind of like the mind

1373
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:33,440
boggles you know because the evidence is

1374
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,960
pointing that direction you have crash

1375
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,040
retrieval programs

1376
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,960
and if it is true then that means there

1377
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,119
is a competition happening perhaps

1378
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:43,280
between different nations and

1379
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,000
the stakes couldn't be higher

1380
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,200
we'll send you uh debs and i deb sent us

1381
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:51,200
a richard dodie interview

1382
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:52,559
that was

1383
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:55,520
very very extensive uh much more in

1384
00:50:02,390 --> 00:49:58,960
depth about very specifics about the

1385
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,400
crash the craft the beings how the craft

1386
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,520
operated

1387
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:05,200
all kinds of different things uh

1388
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,599
biological nature of autopsied beings

1389
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,040
and um

1390
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:13,119
it's uh it was very thought provoking so

1391
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,960
we'll we'll send that to you because

1392
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,920
it

1393
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:17,520
that's all i can say is is pretty

1394
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,200
mind-blowing

1395
00:50:22,670 --> 00:50:21,359
absolutely i i reported as well on the

1396
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,680
um

1397
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:24,960
1933 reported

1398
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:27,920
italian crash as well outside milan

1399
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:29,200
i mean that's

1400
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:30,559
that's pretty

1401
00:50:35,109 --> 00:50:33,280
astonishing to think about as well and

1402
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,119
had you know some really really good

1403
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,960
italian sources speak to me about that

1404
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:37,680
and

1405
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,200
you know how america like apparently um

1406
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:43,839
they got intel from the pope

1407
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:47,280
the vatican let's say um that

1408
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,559
there was this craft that they had

1409
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:50,880
captured the italians

1410
00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:51,920
and

1411
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:56,880
kind of the facility that it was stored

1412
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,480
within and apparently everything else

1413
00:51:02,549 --> 00:50:59,760
got bombed during the war apart from

1414
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:02,559
that facility in that region where and

1415
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:04,160
then after the war

1416
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:06,000
i have a good knowledge as well that it

1417
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,680
was taken to write past in air force

1418
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:09,040
base

1419
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,559
and then someone else

1420
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:12,800
like a defense contractor source

1421
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:15,839
speculated that the technology from that

1422
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,119
crash

1423
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,480
had something to do with like rocket

1424
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:20,160
technology

1425
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:24,000
anti-gravity

1426
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,839
and i thought that was interesting as

1427
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:27,599
well because

1428
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,640
there's always like this theory that

1429
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:32,400
it's a control system

1430
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:33,920
in terms of the phenomenon kind of like

1431
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,079
helping us with technology and get to

1432
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,079
that next advancement

1433
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:39,920
so it makes sense this is kind of like

1434
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:41,599
helping us with that evolution going

1435
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,559
from

1436
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:44,720
jet and rocket technology

1437
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,040
and then now obviously you might have

1438
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:49,680
antibiotic components to it as well so i

1439
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,960
thought that was quite interesting i

1440
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:52,480
mean just gave me food from thought

1441
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,280
really

1442
00:51:58,230 --> 00:51:55,119
that's where the creatures that they

1443
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:58,240
they found there were nordics apparently

1444
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,240
wow really

1445
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:02,480
oh yeah so

1446
00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:03,440
when

1447
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,440
from my understanding obviously

1448
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,839
conjecture um and speculation but my

1449
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:10,079
understanding when it crashed

1450
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:11,280
there were two

1451
00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,640
tall blonde nordics and

1452
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:15,920
mussolini

1453
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,960
um

1454
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,480
for that

1455
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:20,000
it was german technology i thought it

1456
00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:21,760
was germans because the german they knew

1457
00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:24,640
that germany had quite a sophisticated

1458
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,960
program um so just

1459
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:28,640
german but i think sooner or later they

1460
00:52:32,309 --> 00:52:30,800
realized it wasn't um

1461
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,319
and then there was a book i can't

1462
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:34,960
remember it was from against from

1463
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:38,640
leonard sting leonard stringfield

1464
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,240
yeah one of the

1465
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,880
top ufo researchers did a book on it and

1466
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,040
he apparently spoke to french

1467
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:46,880
kind of like doctor

1468
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:48,960
who carried out an autopsy a bright

1469
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:51,040
pattern in the 50s

1470
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,720
and

1471
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:55,040
we found something really interesting

1472
00:53:00,710 --> 00:52:56,559
that

1473
00:53:02,150 --> 00:53:00,720
it was something

1474
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:02,160
uh i need to i need to look at the

1475
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:04,400
article again sorry and my source there

1476
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:06,960
was something about their immune system

1477
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,480
it was like

1478
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,800
the immune system was like so dominant

1479
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:12,880
or something like that that protected

1480
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:13,680
them

1481
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,760
from getting any diseases or infections

1482
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,280
um

1483
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,280
and that's really really important in

1484
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:22,800
space because if you're

1485
00:53:27,190 --> 00:53:25,119
you know a spacefaring civilization

1486
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:27,200
there are tons and tons of viruses and

1487
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,559
stuff out there

1488
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,640
you know in the universe and

1489
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,480
that become essential you would have to

1490
00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:34,079
have this kind of immune system

1491
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,680
component which was dominant in your

1492
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:37,440
body that could kind of like fight

1493
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:38,240
anything off straight away and

1494
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:40,000
apparently that's what um one of the

1495
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:40,880
french

1496
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:43,680
biologists um kind of like found there

1497
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,640
but

1498
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:46,559
yeah i need to find what the

1499
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,800
semantics and medical terms were again

1500
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,760
to

1501
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:51,200
provide you more information on that but

1502
00:53:54,390 --> 00:53:52,480
i thought that was really interesting

1503
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,400
that that is f i've never heard that

1504
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,160
case that's fascinating but i do want to

1505
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:58,559
let you know that nathan's beard is able

1506
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,680
to achieve the same goal um he's immune

1507
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,839
from viruses and illnesses and i don't

1508
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,200
know if it's because he's from the

1509
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:07,520
lineage of dr heineck or if that has

1510
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:09,359
anything to do with it but it has proven

1511
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:10,720
to be the case

1512
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:15,510
went

1513
00:54:19,150 --> 00:54:18,000
that's interesting talking about kind of

1514
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:19,160
um

1515
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,470
we're messing with it christopher this

1516
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:27,119
is just show this is this is typical cab

1517
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:29,440
show craziness there's no way to know

1518
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:35,030
do the pipe again i want to make sure

1519
00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:44,549
[Applause]

1520
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:46,549
oh my goodness i think we're gonna turn

1521
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:49,599
you over to the capable hands of flareus

1522
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:51,040
kevin

1523
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:53,760
okay so we're on we're talking about

1524
00:54:58,069 --> 00:54:56,720
crash retrievals so you know i notice

1525
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,079
the government they're they're more

1526
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,240
concerned with what what happens

1527
00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:02,799
afterwards so so i'm developing a

1528
00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,359
program to for prevention i want to

1529
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,200
prevent these crashes so

1530
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:08,960
you know it's not done yet i'm still

1531
00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:11,359
working on it but i have a video if you

1532
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:12,880
would be interested in seeing it and

1533
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:14,799
maybe giving me some feedback

1534
00:55:18,630 --> 00:55:15,680
you know

1535
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:18,640
um nathan do you have it in the queue i

1536
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:19,680
do

1537
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:21,440
thank you sir

1538
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:23,680
all right so it's called project hades

1539
00:55:26,030 --> 00:55:24,480
okay

1540
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,040
it's humans against drunken

1541
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:28,480
extraterrestrial spacecraft

1542
00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:30,880
all right so now i notice at the end of

1543
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,599
prohibition you know you've got a number

1544
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:35,520
of crashes that they have increased

1545
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,200
dramatically since the end of

1546
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:39,599
prohibition i mean a lot so the mission

1547
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,799
of my program is to hold

1548
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:42,640
extraterrestrials accountable for their

1549
00:55:47,990 --> 00:55:45,119
own wreckage all right so i came up with

1550
00:55:49,270 --> 00:55:48,000
the five observables of intoxicated uap

1551
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:49,280
piloting

1552
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:51,040
all right so the first one is you got to

1553
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:53,359
watch out for sluggishness and loss of

1554
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,880
altitude so if you see those ships on

1555
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:56,160
the street

1556
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,680
number two you don't want them

1557
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,520
interacting with humans that guy's

1558
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,040
clearly drunk

1559
00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,280
all right this guy

1560
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,359
oh what happened we have a

1561
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:06,960
technical difficulty

1562
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,000
hold on

1563
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:10,319
man nathan's holding it together man i'm

1564
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:16,630
christopher what did you sign up for man

1565
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,000
there are actually a few people on

1566
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,240
twitter who like retweet that and think

1567
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:21,760
what does anyone know about this

1568
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:23,839
speculation or is it true

1569
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:26,000
is that a true video of people no my

1570
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,640
friend this is how news is

1571
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,720
this is euron cab that's all this is

1572
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,559
we're gonna try to launch it again here

1573
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,319
kevin hang in there okay yeah cause i'm

1574
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:36,319
just served by that guy staring at me i

1575
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,400
won't lie yeah oh that guy oh he has

1576
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:41,760
something to say too that was fantastic

1577
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:53,349
if only paul and ringo could come on and

1578
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,349
well there we go

1579
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:01,440
yeah okay here we go they're driving on

1580
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,079
the street wait did you see the hov lane

1581
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,240
wait a minute yeah he shouldn't be there

1582
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:08,240
and he's scaring people clearly clearly

1583
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,760
intoxicated

1584
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,359
don't get out of your ship

1585
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:13,920
right oh this guy he just doesn't want

1586
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:16,079
to it's just it's freezing up on me

1587
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:17,520
right there

1588
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,549
well anyway this is the the main gist of

1589
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,480
it you know i'm coming up with a program

1590
00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:28,319
to hold them accountable instead of our

1591
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,760
government i think you know they need to

1592
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,920
stop the drinking and the party

1593
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:33,760
that's what it is do you think that's

1594
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,799
fair christopher i mean they're landing

1595
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:38,160
they're abducting our people they're

1596
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:39,359
taking their alcohol and they're

1597
00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:49,190
because um timothy good claimed that

1598
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,559
obviously there's these slings that

1599
00:57:59,010 --> 00:57:52,160
they're walking among us and stuff like

1600
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:00,390
[Music]

1601
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,960
human looking ones or i think that he

1602
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:04,480
suggested that some of them may be

1603
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:05,760
indigenous

1604
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,640
to this earth that they liked it's like

1605
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,480
tobacco and drink and stuff so you may

1606
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:11,920
have a good point

1607
00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:14,640
we need to make some sort of dmv

1608
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,760
for them

1609
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,520
you know that we can tax them we can

1610
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:19,760
make money tax them on their ships make

1611
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,400
them get licenses insurance you know

1612
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:24,240
i'll have the department you guys are

1613
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:25,920
watching in the government

1614
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,200
you know hey

1615
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,160
come to me energy tax come on man

1616
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,480
renewing their registration every year

1617
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:34,480
oh yeah oh yeah yes

1618
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:37,119
they should be licensed to fly here

1619
00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:38,640
you know they should go through the faa

1620
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,319
pilot test check out man let's go

1621
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:43,200
emissions radiation emissions and stuff

1622
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:46,000
mot mot like in the uk if they're over

1623
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,960
the uk

1624
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,720
gotta get the mot baby they're out of

1625
00:58:53,510 --> 00:58:50,960
control these these extra terrestrials

1626
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:55,430
it's not funny looking for a

1627
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,720
bureaucratic perspective

1628
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,240
i'll tell you what bringing american

1629
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,720
vehicles to the uk as i did having to

1630
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,880
get my headlights were pointed the wrong

1631
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:06,720
way because drive on the right side of

1632
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,559
the road so they had to re-point my

1633
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:10,799
headlights i fixed some some side lights

1634
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:13,200
on there uh have the rear fog light

1635
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:15,760
right christopher uh and then even my

1636
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:17,760
motorcycle needed to get uh mot over

1637
00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:20,720
there and get get a little uh uk iced so

1638
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,910
anyway

1639
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,510
it's like a bad

1640
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,549
oh my god

1641
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:38,470
he's doing gollum for you

1642
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:40,640
oh that's my son to make him laugh the

1643
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:42,880
golem oh we're ready to hear you

1644
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:44,799
christopher go ahead

1645
00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:08,870
something like that

1646
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:12,710
impersonation is quite good for a baby

1647
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:15,359
oh yeah absolutely all right akashi do

1648
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:16,640
you have anything or are we going to go

1649
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,720
with the listener does anybody any of

1650
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:20,799
the cabbies go have more they want to

1651
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:22,000
speak about or we want to bring on

1652
01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:23,599
listener questions

1653
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:26,640
oh i did i just had one thing

1654
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:30,079
yes i just i feel like um i've i've

1655
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:33,520
talked to the lovely mr sharp uh before

1656
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:35,920
about how sometimes he doesn't get to

1657
01:00:40,710 --> 01:00:39,040
talk about his view of things and i

1658
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:40,720
would like him to just have some space

1659
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,040
to express what he thinks is going on a

1660
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,069
no no and you know it's been wonderful

1661
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,400
talking to you and you know you provide

1662
01:00:54,870 --> 01:00:52,960
some fantastic perspectives and we have

1663
01:00:57,270 --> 01:00:54,880
a great conversation so thank you for

1664
01:00:58,870 --> 01:00:57,280
your support as well um

1665
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:58,880
everything you've kind of done helping

1666
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,000
me and stuff

1667
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:02,319
um being difficult putting articles out

1668
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:03,359
there

1669
01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:04,799
you get people that love you and people

1670
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:07,599
that hate you um you know people such as

1671
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,880
yourself you know support that you

1672
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,480
provide really really helped me get

1673
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:12,559
through the day sometimes so thank you

1674
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,000
um

1675
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:17,040
yeah i mean on i mean my my theory is

1676
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:19,280
that obviously speaking for myself i

1677
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:21,359
always go back to tom delonge i always

1678
01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:24,559
go that's tom's lunch um and some like

1679
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,480
the older literature and stuff i like to

1680
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:28,079
put two and two together

1681
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:29,040
um

1682
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:29,839
so

1683
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:31,599
i mean

1684
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:33,119
you you go back to some of the

1685
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:34,799
interviews that you can't talk about

1686
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:37,040
anymore and he obviously talks about

1687
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,119
kind of a um

1688
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,520
a collaborative effort

1689
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:43,040
international effort

1690
01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:44,400
going on

1691
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,520
um

1692
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,839
and that something is referred to as the

1693
01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:50,640
big game to make it seem like

1694
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,400
you know we're building up armaments and

1695
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,480
stuff like that against each other

1696
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:56,559
whether it's america versus russia or so

1697
01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:59,520
forth but really it's it's kind of like

1698
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,520
counter something else which

1699
01:02:05,510 --> 01:02:04,319
is deemed to threat by both russia and

1700
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:05,520
america

1701
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:06,400
um

1702
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,640
so i think there's that perspective and

1703
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:12,240
i feel that

1704
01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:16,000
some events may be manipulated there was

1705
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:18,160
the claim that during the

1706
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,200
cuban missile crisis um

1707
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:22,880
obviously it was starfish prime which

1708
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,599
was the big nuclear weapons test that

1709
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:27,520
took place in space

1710
01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:30,400
and tom's launch claims that

1711
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:32,799
you suggested speculated let's say that

1712
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,880
there were there were soviets let's say

1713
01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:36,960
and americans

1714
01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:38,640
in the same room

1715
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,319
as each other

1716
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:42,720
witnessing that as it took place

1717
01:02:48,789 --> 01:02:46,319
um so i thought that was interesting um

1718
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,799
and obviously i i go back to secret

1719
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:50,640
machines as well

1720
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:52,559
go back to that i think that's really

1721
01:02:54,220 --> 01:02:53,839
interesting

1722
01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:54,230
um

1723
01:02:57,029 --> 01:02:55,440
[Music]

1724
01:02:59,510 --> 01:02:57,039
yeah

1725
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,520
and i go back to

1726
01:03:05,589 --> 01:03:01,440
the ancient greeks

1727
01:03:09,510 --> 01:03:07,349
i mean when you look back at greek

1728
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,520
mythology it's really interesting

1729
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:11,680
because obviously the greeks are kind of

1730
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:14,160
meditating people you know

1731
01:03:17,670 --> 01:03:16,720
um dark hair on skin

1732
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:17,680
um

1733
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:20,160
but their gods they always imagined were

1734
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:22,880
blonde blonde hair blue eyes pale skin

1735
01:03:26,950 --> 01:03:24,960
uh that was interesting in the greeks

1736
01:03:28,710 --> 01:03:26,960
like i mean i always imagine it religion

1737
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:28,720
was just created by people just kind of

1738
01:03:33,670 --> 01:03:31,920
like to help their fear of death but no

1739
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:33,680
we knew for the greeks the greeks feared

1740
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:34,960
their gods

1741
01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:36,240
they they didn't want they didn't want

1742
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:38,160
their god's attention because

1743
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:39,440
the gods were always playing with them

1744
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:41,280
and they were moody and they would play

1745
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,119
games and stuff and

1746
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:45,839
um and one of the interesting things is

1747
01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:48,400
if you look at the greek like story

1748
01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:49,760
about how

1749
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:51,440
earth came to be and how humans came to

1750
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:52,640
be

1751
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:54,640
humans were not significant

1752
01:03:57,029 --> 01:03:56,000
we're not a significant part of the

1753
01:03:58,789 --> 01:03:57,039
story

1754
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:58,799
you know if you look at the greek

1755
01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:01,359
mythology of how the earth came to be in

1756
01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:03,200
the universe and kind of like if you

1757
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:04,960
look at any other kind of like religious

1758
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:06,319
texts and stuff like that humans are

1759
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:07,680
always the center

1760
01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:09,359
of existence and creation stuff like

1761
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:13,200
that but in greek mythology we're not um

1762
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:14,559
especially if we're not

1763
01:04:17,589 --> 01:04:16,079
top of the food chain

1764
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:17,599
let's say which is being

1765
01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:20,240
suggested by louis lozando

1766
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:23,599
um so let's go back to that and then the

1767
01:04:28,950 --> 01:04:26,640
last lastly i go back to lockheed martin

1768
01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:28,960
as well and the defense contractors

1769
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:30,960
um and the us air force because if you

1770
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:31,760
believe

1771
01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:35,680
this all

1772
01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:38,000
happened because of lockheed martin

1773
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,640
and the u.s air force um

1774
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:42,000
you know he claimed that he attended a

1775
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:45,520
barbecue event with lockheed managed to

1776
01:04:49,029 --> 01:04:46,559
talk to

1777
01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:49,039
um one of the top con guns there it was

1778
01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:50,720
weiss or something like that

1779
01:04:53,910 --> 01:04:51,680
um

1780
01:04:56,630 --> 01:04:53,920
he was like head of lockheed at the time

1781
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,640
um skunk works at least and kind of like

1782
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:58,319
that's how it all started that's where

1783
01:05:02,069 --> 01:04:59,839
tom made his pitch

1784
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,079
to lockheed and then lockheed introduced

1785
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,160
him to people from the u.s air force

1786
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:06,640
like the castles and stuff

1787
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:08,799
and now the air force doesn't want

1788
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:10,799
anything to do with it apparently

1789
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,680
um and we don't hear anything from

1790
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:15,359
you know contractors or anything like

1791
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:16,240
that

1792
01:05:19,670 --> 01:05:17,680
because they're the missing part of the

1793
01:05:20,950 --> 01:05:19,680
chessboard but if you believe thomas

1794
01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:20,960
lunch

1795
01:05:25,829 --> 01:05:23,520
those were the vital parts of the

1796
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:25,839
chessboard that got this all started so

1797
01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:27,760
i mean that always that that's always

1798
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:29,039
something that i

1799
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:36,710
um can i go ahead first of all i do want

1800
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:38,799
to say something because for me and

1801
01:05:44,309 --> 01:05:42,160
flair we're like obsessed with ancients

1802
01:05:45,670 --> 01:05:44,319
and with what was here before so we're

1803
01:05:47,750 --> 01:05:45,680
probably going to be pinging you to

1804
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:47,760
bring you back just for like

1805
01:05:56,630 --> 01:05:53,750
yeah so

1806
01:05:58,870 --> 01:05:56,640
a second can we take a a quick audience

1807
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:58,880
question because we got one please is

1808
01:06:01,349 --> 01:05:59,839
that okay

1809
01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:01,359
let's do that

1810
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:03,359
so from baby goat hi baby go and

1811
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:05,599
everybody on the chat has been great

1812
01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:07,839
uh was the bell connected to any

1813
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,319
particular faction of beings government

1814
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:12,559
re-engineering project or just

1815
01:06:19,589 --> 01:06:18,470
it's interesting i mean again you just

1816
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:19,599
got

1817
01:06:25,430 --> 01:06:22,319
pieces of the puzzle i mean if you

1818
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:25,440
speak to my former uap media uk

1819
01:06:30,390 --> 01:06:27,839
colleague um the lovely graeme render i

1820
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:30,400
love so much such a talented guy

1821
01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:33,520
um he'll basically say that the bell

1822
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:34,559
this

1823
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:36,960
wasn't based in reality or anything like

1824
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:38,720
that um

1825
01:06:41,589 --> 01:06:40,720
and it will kind of like he'll air more

1826
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:41,599
so

1827
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:44,079
dismissing it um

1828
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,920
but i mean if you look at kind of like

1829
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:47,280
nick cook

1830
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:48,240
um

1831
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:50,559
who used to write for james defense and

1832
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:53,200
he had a book called searching for zero

1833
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:54,240
point

1834
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,119
i mean

1835
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:57,280
there were strange things that happened

1836
01:07:01,349 --> 01:06:58,319
let's say

1837
01:07:02,309 --> 01:07:01,359
i mean you had hammers camera

1838
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:02,319
um

1839
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,799
he was an ss officer who apparently

1840
01:07:08,309 --> 01:07:06,640
controlled

1841
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:08,319
according to accounts

1842
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:10,319
the bell project and obviously you've

1843
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:12,720
got this structure as well in poland

1844
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:15,440
um just kind of henge circle which

1845
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:18,400
was claimed that this is where the

1846
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,680
the bell

1847
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:21,599
kind of was tested

1848
01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,440
um

1849
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:25,280
where they got that technology from i'm

1850
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,680
not sure obviously you had

1851
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:29,039
this

1852
01:07:33,190 --> 01:07:30,480
kind of

1853
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:33,200
obsession with the aryan race blue eyes

1854
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:34,559
blond hair

1855
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:38,160
and you had certain groups that say

1856
01:07:41,589 --> 01:07:39,440
um

1857
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,599
like mystic groups that claim that they

1858
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,200
are in touch with aliens and i know that

1859
01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:45,359
the nazis are obsessed with the occult

1860
01:07:48,710 --> 01:07:46,799
you look at heinrich himmler and people

1861
01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:48,720
like that

1862
01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:50,960
you know they launch expeditions tibet

1863
01:07:54,870 --> 01:07:52,799
and stuff like that ancient knowledge

1864
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:54,880
anything that can kill like

1865
01:07:58,390 --> 01:07:56,799
help them kind of get ahead

1866
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:58,400
um

1867
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,119
but i mean you've got pieces

1868
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:03,920
missing really um i don't believe that

1869
01:08:07,589 --> 01:08:05,440
they're responsible for the ufo

1870
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:07,599
sightings slash food fighter sightings

1871
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,640
in

1872
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:10,880
world war ii i believe they had mastered

1873
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:12,079
technology

1874
01:08:15,270 --> 01:08:13,839
which they gained the bell had it would

1875
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:15,280
have been game over in terms of world

1876
01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:16,560
war ii

1877
01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:18,080
there is the potential i mean if you

1878
01:08:21,030 --> 01:08:19,920
read secret machines it claims that the

1879
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:21,040
bell was

1880
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:23,199
kind of like removed and potentially

1881
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,719
taken to

1882
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:27,120
south america in the war

1883
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:28,480
after the war

1884
01:08:32,149 --> 01:08:30,319
and there are really strange things that

1885
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:32,159
went on in south america

1886
01:08:37,910 --> 01:08:35,759
after the war i mean you had

1887
01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:37,920
there's like a whole channel like um

1888
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:40,239
which has videos dedicated to this of

1889
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,719
submarines that would you know nazi

1890
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:44,480
submarines that just come up from

1891
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:46,719
beaches and stuff like that and

1892
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:48,239
they found that they've been at sea for

1893
01:08:51,669 --> 01:08:49,520
months but no one knew what they were

1894
01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:51,679
doing and there was an empty cargo but

1895
01:08:55,349 --> 01:08:53,359
they think they went somewhere else

1896
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:55,359
before and

1897
01:09:00,550 --> 01:08:58,319
obviously you had um you know nazi

1898
01:09:02,550 --> 01:09:00,560
scientists as well like building uh

1899
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:02,560
military technology for

1900
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:04,159
um kind of like some of the

1901
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:06,560
dictatorships in argentina and stuff

1902
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:07,839
um

1903
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,400
yeah and i mean there are whispers that

1904
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:12,880
something was going on in south america

1905
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:14,319
after the war

1906
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:16,560
and if you listen to tom delonge's

1907
01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:20,319
interview with um joe rogan um he claims

1908
01:09:24,309 --> 01:09:21,279
that

1909
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:24,319
what crash at roswell was german

1910
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,359
um he believes that

1911
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:29,120
i mean these are just claims obviously

1912
01:09:32,630 --> 01:09:30,319
these are just things that you just have

1913
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:32,640
to take into account you can't

1914
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:34,319
put any conclusions there but i'm not

1915
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,000
going to dismiss anything if i did if i

1916
01:09:40,309 --> 01:09:37,600
dismiss something

1917
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:40,319
i'm straight away just kind of like

1918
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:42,000
restrict myself

1919
01:09:44,870 --> 01:09:43,759
so i like just to keep these things in

1920
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:44,880
the air

1921
01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:46,880
and just like come back from time again

1922
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:49,279
wherever i see a corollary

1923
01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:51,759
um occur um

1924
01:09:57,030 --> 01:09:54,400
yeah but i mean strange stuff happened

1925
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,040
in argentina you go to argentina today

1926
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:59,360
there are still like whole villages and

1927
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,480
towns

1928
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:02,560
people speaking german german

1929
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:05,199
blue eyes to this day

1930
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:06,640
structures

1931
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:09,760
yeah yep yeah i've seen some of that tim

1932
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:13,040
kennedy uh former uh green beret and

1933
01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:14,880
former ufc fighter went down there and

1934
01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:18,400
did a whole series on uh hunting nazis

1935
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:21,120
uh in uh in argentina uh in south

1936
01:10:26,550 --> 01:10:23,520
america uh in general

1937
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:26,560
um yeah i wanna say i also think tom

1938
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:28,400
delong has some amazing sources and

1939
01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:31,199
you're right we can't discount he he's

1940
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,360
connect he you know got himself

1941
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:35,520
connected to some of the most powerful

1942
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:37,199
people in government and also in the

1943
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:40,400
defense industry and has more knowledge

1944
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,719
than any any of us have um

1945
01:10:47,430 --> 01:10:45,040
uh and also to tom delong shout out to

1946
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:47,440
you uh tom uh this gentleman right here

1947
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:49,760
christopher sharp would like to

1948
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:51,040
interview you

1949
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:53,360
and i don't think you could pick a

1950
01:10:58,229 --> 01:10:56,239
better person to interview you so uh

1951
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:58,239
nathan will will be able to cut this up

1952
01:11:01,270 --> 01:11:00,000
and we'll be able to make a promo but

1953
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,280
tom delong

1954
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:03,600
get a hold of the real

1955
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,480
is it real uh

1956
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,320
yeah he retweeted one of my articles

1957
01:11:12,709 --> 01:11:10,560
back in december yeah one on what we can

1958
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:12,719
expect from 2022 and

1959
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:14,159
yeah i thought you'd follow up with the

1960
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:15,920
message just saying hello i was big

1961
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:19,120
blindfolded too family i was younger

1962
01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:21,120
we'll do our best to make that happen uh

1963
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:23,520
with our our promo skills here to try to

1964
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:25,760
get you connected with them so so that's

1965
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:27,040
all i have on that do you have another

1966
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:29,600
question akashi

1967
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:31,040
i have one if you're while you're

1968
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:33,360
hunting no i don't have anything except

1969
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:40,070
yeah so as someone with a background in

1970
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:46,149
advice would you give to

1971
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:49,199
the others themselves on on their public

1972
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,960
affair

1973
01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:52,640
work that they are or are not doing i

1974
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:54,159
just find it interesting that so much of

1975
01:11:58,149 --> 01:11:56,480
the conversation

1976
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:58,159
around ufos

1977
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,080
it's as if they're not in the room you

1978
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,400
know like whatever we're going to do

1979
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:04,320
whatever another country is going to do

1980
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,520
whatever

1981
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:07,360
you know waiting on the next

1982
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:09,600
disclosure tidbit or whatever

1983
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:12,320
as if they're not an active party to

1984
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,159
this entire

1985
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:15,520
endeavor so

1986
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:17,199
what

1987
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,480
i mean that doesn't make sense to me are

1988
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,360
they waiting on is is it just uh

1989
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:25,199
do you think that

1990
01:12:28,149 --> 01:12:26,960
we actually have a good sense of what's

1991
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:28,159
happening here

1992
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:30,080
uh and that we are

1993
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:31,440
carefully

1994
01:12:34,950 --> 01:12:33,280
kind of rolling this out so that the

1995
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:34,960
public at large is

1996
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:37,120
ready to digest this

1997
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:38,880
or do you think

1998
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:40,480
we really don't know what it is and

1999
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,840
that's the reason why we haven't

2000
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:43,600
disclosed because

2001
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:45,679
the things we may know are so strange

2002
01:12:51,030 --> 01:12:47,520
and so weird that it's it's really hard

2003
01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:51,040
to tell this story or give it justice

2004
01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,520
yeah very good question i mean

2005
01:12:56,950 --> 01:12:55,840
um i i think

2006
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:56,960
there are different levels of

2007
01:13:02,390 --> 01:12:59,840
understanding i think that

2008
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:02,400
i think knowledge has been possessed

2009
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:03,600
previously

2010
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:06,800
but that might be compartmentalized

2011
01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:09,600
i don't think lou elizondo necessarily

2012
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:11,600
knows all the answers

2013
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:13,199
he may himself be searching for some of

2014
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:14,080
the answers that may be

2015
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:16,880
compartmentalized sections

2016
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:19,040
within the defense intelligence and even

2017
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,199
the department of energy um other

2018
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:23,760
agencies um so

2019
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:25,360
i

2020
01:13:48,310 --> 01:13:46,159
um

2021
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:48,320
i think that's happening and obviously

2022
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:49,520
they know a lot more than us they've

2023
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:51,679
probably been privy to videos and stuff

2024
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,719
um

2025
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:54,239
i think they're at least aware there's a

2026
01:13:58,630 --> 01:13:56,159
nuclear connection perhaps that we're

2027
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:58,640
baiting them using nuclear technology as

2028
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,320
well

2029
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,719
i think i think that that's happening um

2030
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,640
so aware of that but

2031
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:06,320
you know if we are in touch with let's

2032
01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:08,000
say different

2033
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:10,560
civilizations and stuff like that

2034
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:12,800
i don't necessarily think they're privy

2035
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:16,159
to that perhaps it's just kind of like

2036
01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,760
i mean it's kind of like boiling a frog

2037
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:19,280
if you think about it you know you can't

2038
01:14:24,149 --> 01:14:21,520
have the water to

2039
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:24,159
hot

2040
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:25,920
sometimes they're gonna jump out

2041
01:14:30,790 --> 01:14:28,400
you know i think in this case a sphere

2042
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:30,800
of ridicule that will jump out or it's

2043
01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:32,800
just they just can't process it

2044
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:34,320
um

2045
01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:35,760
because it just goes against everything

2046
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:37,600
ingrained in their kind of like culture

2047
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,679
and mind i mean i mean we talk about our

2048
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:41,440
culture for one but you got other

2049
01:14:46,390 --> 01:14:43,760
cultures across the world you know like

2050
01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:46,400
um we had a recent article about india

2051
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:47,360
um

2052
01:14:49,669 --> 01:14:48,239
and

2053
01:14:52,390 --> 01:14:49,679
literally

2054
01:14:54,229 --> 01:14:52,400
um you know some indian pakistani troops

2055
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:54,239
they see these things in the sky

2056
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:56,400
may see them as demons lit quite

2057
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:57,520
literally

2058
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:58,960
um

2059
01:15:00,870 --> 01:14:59,840
so

2060
01:15:03,270 --> 01:15:00,880
yeah

2061
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:03,280
it's difficult it's so complex really

2062
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:05,040
really is complex

2063
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:07,040
just how you get this information out i

2064
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:08,400
mean it's one thing getting out to u.s

2065
01:15:11,510 --> 01:15:10,080
senators

2066
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:11,520
actually kind of like rolling it out to

2067
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:13,280
different

2068
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,920
and stuff i mean

2069
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:20,159
it's a complex complex process but i

2070
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:21,600
think i think we're ready for the

2071
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:23,520
mission i think

2072
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:25,520
you know like people like myself and you

2073
01:15:28,149 --> 01:15:27,440
know obviously you're basically saying

2074
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:28,159
what

2075
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,239
you're already happy

2076
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:32,480
definitely

2077
01:15:38,310 --> 01:15:35,280
yeah debs has got one more for you um

2078
01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,320
and i think that'll be the final one yes

2079
01:15:41,510 --> 01:15:40,640
this is a big one are you ready

2080
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:41,520
sure

2081
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:44,159
what comes next what

2082
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:46,719
what you know i love your work obviously

2083
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:49,199
you are very thorough you give us

2084
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,360
citation you give us videos which is

2085
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:52,480
really cool

2086
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,640
and i just can't wait to find out what

2087
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:57,199
comes next

2088
01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:00,159
okay so um in terms of

2089
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:01,920
liberation times

2090
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:02,880
um

2091
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:05,840
we're working on three stories one which

2092
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:06,880
is

2093
01:16:12,149 --> 01:16:09,040
um internationally based that south

2094
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:12,159
american country named brazil um so

2095
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:13,760
we've got an article being written by a

2096
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,640
guest

2097
01:16:19,110 --> 01:16:15,920
um

2098
01:16:21,110 --> 01:16:19,120
contributor on that who knows his stuff

2099
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:21,120
um and then

2100
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,640
one other story

2101
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:24,719
or two other stories that i can't really

2102
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:27,440
talk about um firstly because the first

2103
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:28,320
one

2104
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,840
it's still an ongoing

2105
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:31,199
process of what information i can

2106
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:32,719
actually get from it and how big the

2107
01:16:34,870 --> 01:16:33,760
story is going to get based on the

2108
01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:34,880
information

2109
01:16:38,950 --> 01:16:37,120
that i get um

2110
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:38,960
let's just compare it to like pulling a

2111
01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:41,360
tooth out basically it's very difficult

2112
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:43,840
um and then another story

2113
01:16:48,790 --> 01:16:46,239
um which is from another guest

2114
01:16:51,030 --> 01:16:48,800
contributor which is

2115
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:51,040
quite sensitive um

2116
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:52,400
so

2117
01:16:57,110 --> 01:16:54,640
but i mean i need to see the article for

2118
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:57,120
myself first but it could be quite

2119
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:00,880
explosive um let's say um so we've got

2120
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:03,440
those articles coming out um

2121
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:06,080
and then in terms of what happens next

2122
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,080
in terms of the uap and stuff

2123
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,239
um it's going to be third gear like

2124
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:11,760
louis londo said it's going

2125
01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:12,960
international

2126
01:17:17,830 --> 01:17:15,600
if you look at the ndaa you've got a

2127
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:17,840
section there saying that

2128
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,159
there will be coordination between the

2129
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:22,560
us its allies and partners across the

2130
01:17:24,550 --> 01:17:23,840
world

2131
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:24,560
so

2132
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,159
i believe we're just at the start of a

2133
01:17:31,430 --> 01:17:28,880
process that's going to kind of

2134
01:17:33,189 --> 01:17:31,440
see what's happened in america

2135
01:17:35,350 --> 01:17:33,199
repeated

2136
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:35,360
in other countries

2137
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,600
but i think also this process is getting

2138
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:39,679
expedited as well because you've got the

2139
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:42,880
u.n component there as well so

2140
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:44,960
you know countries need to gumball the

2141
01:17:47,350 --> 01:17:46,159
train kind of like have their own

2142
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:47,360
processes

2143
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,880
um because when the un stuff gets here

2144
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:52,960
and potential new revelations coming

2145
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:55,679
from the us as well new videos and stuff

2146
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:57,440
um you don't want to be backed in a

2147
01:18:01,590 --> 01:17:59,600
corner as a government you want to

2148
01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:01,600
you don't want to be on the back foot

2149
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:02,960
when it comes to that kind of like stuff

2150
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:05,760
so i think yeah i i think we're heading

2151
01:18:08,709 --> 01:18:07,760
in a really good direction and

2152
01:18:09,990 --> 01:18:08,719
the science is going to get more

2153
01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:10,000
involved as we've got the galileo

2154
01:18:14,070 --> 01:18:12,560
project we've got eric weinstein um

2155
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:14,080
people like that you know some

2156
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:15,440
heavyweights and stuff getting involved

2157
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:16,400
now and

2158
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:18,159
i i think i think we're we're we're

2159
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:19,280
going to a good place and like i said

2160
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:21,120
before

2161
01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:22,480
for the us government to have the

2162
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:24,640
galileo project

2163
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:26,000
kind of come out with an announcement

2164
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:26,800
saying

2165
01:18:30,390 --> 01:18:28,080
we've spotted

2166
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,400
you know tic tac objects

2167
01:18:33,910 --> 01:18:32,320
outside one of our nuclear facilities or

2168
01:18:36,630 --> 01:18:33,920
something like that or pouring around

2169
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,640
the sky um it's got huge

2170
01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:38,560
capabilities which beyond anything that

2171
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:41,040
we're capable of if that was to come out

2172
01:18:44,310 --> 01:18:42,640
for the galileo project that they have

2173
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:44,320
spotted and disclosed this information

2174
01:18:46,950 --> 01:18:45,760
first

2175
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:46,960
before

2176
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:49,600
you know the u.s air force and dod as a

2177
01:18:53,750 --> 01:18:51,600
whole even acknowledged that

2178
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,760
that's this huge embarrassment that is a

2179
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:55,360
huge embarrassment why you've got to

2180
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:56,800
admit that you've been

2181
01:19:00,550 --> 01:18:58,880
hiding the truth and not being truthful

2182
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:00,560
to the american people

2183
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:03,360
or that it's a huge kind of like

2184
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:04,800
incompetence problem

2185
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:06,000
that they can't even spot these things

2186
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:07,920
in their own sky and it's taken a you

2187
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,920
know private group to actually discover

2188
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:11,520
it i mean

2189
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:14,960
they are backed into a corner

2190
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:16,719
yeah i think they're more attracted to

2191
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:18,880
the naval assets because of the nuclear

2192
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,800
power component of them

2193
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:22,719
not say that they're and you know we'll

2194
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:23,920
actually you know we'll talk about it

2195
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,840
backstage a little bit but the mission

2196
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:27,120
of the air force and the mission the

2197
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:28,800
navy are two completely divergent

2198
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:32,239
missions and so one lends itself to more

2199
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:35,679
obfuscation than the other because of

2200
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:37,360
where they're occurring

2201
01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,280
um meaning over the skies the united

2202
01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:41,199
states but we can get into that yeah

2203
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:42,239
backstage

2204
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,040
yesterday here we go um there was a

2205
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:47,760
video i'll put it up my twitter um

2206
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:49,440
and it was actually like relating to

2207
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,719
what you talked to like baiting

2208
01:19:55,189 --> 01:19:52,640
basically um

2209
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:55,199
it was like a it was a short film a

2210
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:56,640
short russian film

2211
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:58,800
that was released i think like two years

2212
01:20:02,070 --> 01:19:59,679
ago

2213
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:02,080
and it was based on a ufo event

2214
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:03,679
which is fictional

2215
01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:05,760
but it's based on a drone

2216
01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:08,960
and the drone has got let's say nuclear

2217
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:10,560
material on

2218
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:12,320
and the drone operator is operating this

2219
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:14,800
drone to bait the uap

2220
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:15,920
um

2221
01:20:20,550 --> 01:20:19,199
and the uap suddenly go comes

2222
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:20,560
and

2223
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,360
the drone has like an emp

2224
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:25,760
kind of um capability

2225
01:20:29,510 --> 01:20:27,520
and she gets the drone operator gets

2226
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,520
ordered to kind of like

2227
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:31,280
you know file the amp up to bring the

2228
01:20:34,950 --> 01:20:33,840
uap down and it just struck me actually

2229
01:20:36,550 --> 01:20:34,960
that that's

2230
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:36,560
really quite clever

2231
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:37,600
and maybe

2232
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:39,760
as well as naval craft kind of like

2233
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:40,880
baiting

2234
01:20:44,470 --> 01:20:43,199
uaps that you could probably have drones

2235
01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:44,480
and stuff like that kind of like baiting

2236
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:48,239
them as well then you know getting ua um

2237
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,199
you know um electromagnetic pulses

2238
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:52,960
um out there to bring them down

2239
01:20:56,149 --> 01:20:54,159
especially in russia which doesn't

2240
01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:56,159
really have a lot of um

2241
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:58,800
you know c c area especially for most of

2242
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,440
the uh mostly it's frozen um so yeah i

2243
01:21:05,910 --> 01:21:03,199
thought that was interesting

2244
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:05,920
more more conversation for backstage uh

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01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:07,440
but uh

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01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:11,360
um my my final question to you is uh

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01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,360
is there a specific aspect of the

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01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:15,040
phenomenon if we were going to talk

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01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:16,000
about

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uh remote viewing or if we're going to

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01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:21,040
talk about consciousness or

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01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:23,679
interdimensional or extraterrestrial or

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01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:26,480
crashes is there one sort of

2254
01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:29,679
sliver tangent of the phenomenon that

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01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:31,679
really fascinates you the most that

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01:21:37,830 --> 01:21:32,639
makes you

2257
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:37,840
yeah yeah they definitely i think it's

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01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:39,120
um

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01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:40,480
i think it's the whole consciousness

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01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,400
aspect

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01:21:47,510 --> 01:21:45,040
um i think that really interests me

2262
01:21:50,310 --> 01:21:47,520
because i was into biocentrism

2263
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,320
what really is reality

2264
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:52,159
do we know what reality is

2265
01:21:59,510 --> 01:21:53,199
um

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01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:59,520
really really strange

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01:22:02,470 --> 01:22:00,719
um

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01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:02,480
so yeah i think that whole aspect and i

2269
01:22:06,629 --> 01:22:04,560
would recommend people like read robert

2270
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:06,639
lanza when it comes to stuff he's really

2271
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:08,239
really interesting when it comes to the

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01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:10,800
biocentric world um

2273
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:14,320
because reality could just be

2274
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:16,159
something projected by your own senses

2275
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:18,080
and like louis zonda said before that we

2276
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:20,320
don't really see much for reality

2277
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:23,520
we don't see 5g and or any of the other

2278
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,920
signals going past every single day so

2279
01:22:30,310 --> 01:22:28,000
wow there's a lot that is based on our

2280
01:22:32,229 --> 01:22:30,320
perceptions maybe reality is perception

2281
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:32,239
which is also explaining why some people

2282
01:22:37,350 --> 01:22:34,639
see uaps so others don't

2283
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,360
weird stuff like that so yeah and and if

2284
01:22:40,229 --> 01:22:39,360
they master tech quantum technology as

2285
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,239
well

2286
01:22:44,390 --> 01:22:42,239
they could project things to us which

2287
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:44,400
carrie nolan said so yeah i think that's

2288
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:46,880
really interesting nathan could do 45

2289
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:49,520
minutes with you just on that topic

2290
01:22:54,870 --> 01:22:52,320
right there he loves some reality all

2291
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:54,880
right it's the one all right go ahead

2292
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:02,470
yeah uh well chris you're incredibly

2293
01:23:05,430 --> 01:23:03,679
articulate and the work that you're

2294
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:05,440
putting out is

2295
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:07,840
just top notch and uh we are lucky to

2296
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:10,639
have you and your voice in this uh

2297
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:13,040
endeavor um we're lucky to have you

2298
01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:15,040
tonight uh to to share in your

2299
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:16,719
experience and and the work that you're

2300
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:18,880
doing so we're here to encourage you to

2301
01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:21,440
keep on with what you're doing and

2302
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,600
uh we'll always be here if you want to

2303
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,520
come back and chat we've got a million

2304
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:27,120
more questions and we're looking forward

2305
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:28,480
to doing that so yeah thank you very

2306
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:29,280
much

2307
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:31,600
thank you for having me i loved it

2308
01:23:35,910 --> 01:23:32,800
akashi

2309
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:35,920
oh my gosh this has been such a pleasure

2310
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:38,320
chris sharp i'm just you know it's it

2311
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:40,880
this is so much more than i even i loved

2312
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,800
it coming in but i even love it more

2313
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:44,960
coming out because it's just it's

2314
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:46,639
there's so much and by the way there's

2315
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,199
been so much chat action here in the

2316
01:23:53,430 --> 01:23:51,840
last 10 minutes that i'm just gonna go

2317
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:53,440
ahead and ask this like maybe we can

2318
01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:56,320
have you back sometime soon

2319
01:24:00,470 --> 01:23:58,080
you've got a rock

2320
01:24:03,430 --> 01:24:00,480
so and we have a lot to talk to you

2321
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:03,440
about so i'm associate producer so i got

2322
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:04,719
to work the deals while they're

2323
01:24:09,590 --> 01:24:06,159
happening so

2324
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,600
uh anyway thank you so much for spending

2325
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:11,600
all this time with us and it's just been

2326
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:13,679
a pleasure and everybody agrees so we're

2327
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,590
do you mind quickly if i just get my son

2328
01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:21,760
i can hear him crying please oh yeah we

2329
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:30,390
of this show flareous kevin thanks for

2330
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:31,600
coming on

2331
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:34,080
not loved by anyone

2332
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:35,040
yeah

2333
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:37,760
nathan didn't expect me to sing tom

2334
01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:39,120
jones i don't know i'm always ready for

2335
01:24:46,149 --> 01:24:40,719
tom jones

2336
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:46,159
he's doing the voice like right okay

2337
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:48,560
i've been seeing that i love that i'm

2338
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:51,520
like oh my god delilah man

2339
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:52,800
it was awesome

2340
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:55,280
so look at the cool clock let's go ahead

2341
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:00,950
let's do a room microwave i don't have

2342
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:03,520
kathy splash here anymore but

2343
01:25:07,590 --> 01:25:05,360
look at the clock on the wall was that a

2344
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:07,600
little stuffed animal on the top shelf

2345
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:10,880
there i'll be back

2346
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:27,030
all right the five observables i'll put

2347
01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:30,800
it up there yeah we'll catch you later

2348
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:32,560
bye

2349
01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:35,520
all right nathan okay yes

2350
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:37,360
baby yes great talking with everybody

2351
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:38,880
thank you audience for being here and uh

2352
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:41,840
next up with us on tuesday night

2353
01:25:45,910 --> 01:25:43,920
is uh mr louise minutes from the

2354
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,920
unidentified celebrity review looking

2355
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:47,840
forward to chatting with him one on one

2356
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:50,880
or five on one in this case so fantastic

2357
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:53,520
uh and uh if you haven't hit that uh

2358
01:25:58,149 --> 01:25:55,760
like and subscribe please do so so that

2359
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:58,159
you get uh to follow our content going

2360
01:26:02,950 --> 01:26:00,800
forward as always a pleasure dj you want

2361
01:26:04,629 --> 01:26:02,960
to take us out thank you thank you so

2362
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:04,639
much and i also want to just say thank

2363
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:06,880
you to deb because deb brought

2364
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:08,639
christopher to us

2365
01:26:13,830 --> 01:26:11,280
uh and made us aware of him some of you

2366
01:26:15,430 --> 01:26:13,840
may have been aware of his work and and

2367
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:15,440
and i wasn't so

2368
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:18,000
thank you very much debs and so for uh

2369
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,960
nathan for akashi for flareus wait wait

2370
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,960
pause don't forget pause

2371
01:26:26,629 --> 01:26:24,880
don't forget pause remind everybody of

2372
01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:26,639
pause

2373
01:26:31,990 --> 01:26:28,639
okay so that's tomorrow night

2374
01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:32,000
okay so tomorrow night at 9 00 p.m uh we

2375
01:26:37,830 --> 01:26:35,199
will have on uh the lovely susan fensten

2376
01:26:41,189 --> 01:26:37,840
to uh reveal the winner of the well

2377
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:41,199
tuesday night i'm sorry i host that one

2378
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:42,960
so tomorrow we're going to be doing the

2379
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:45,440
drawing the drawing so we still have an

2380
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:47,840
opportunity to enter that raffle for

2381
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,800
that great susan fencing piece then

2382
01:26:55,110 --> 01:26:52,639
we're going to have the winner on

2383
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,120
tuesday tuesday it's happening on the

2384
01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:57,360
show we decided to add that as a like an

2385
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:00,159
extra prize okay like let's have him on

2386
01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:02,320
and have a meet susan and hopefully

2387
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:04,719
people get excited and give me the

2388
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:08,560
puppies and the kittens oh and surprise

2389
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:11,440
and and i know you cannot win

2390
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:14,239
and surprise surprise no cabbie can win

2391
01:27:19,110 --> 01:27:16,480
surprise guest uh tia will come on and

2392
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:19,120
also uh thank thank uh susan and

2393
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:20,880
everybody else so she'll jump in at uh

2394
01:27:26,229 --> 01:27:23,360
nine o'clock on whichever night that you

2395
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:26,239
guys prescribe it's going to be so uh so

2396
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,239
thank you thank you very much uh nathan

2397
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:30,080
for doing another amazing job as you

2398
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:34,080
always do akashi chris flarius kevin and

2399
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:37,520
deb a study of uaps the host

2400
01:27:42,550 --> 01:27:40,719
of debs data dojo

2401
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:42,560
sounds like

2402
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:45,040
the cabbies this dj's saying peace out

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01:27:50,340 --> 01:27:47,920
one love and we'll see you down the road